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Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:57 pm
by Trio
Hello guys. Sorry I have tot made normal access to file . I am newbie with GoogleDrive.

Try this
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVuNWC ... sp=sharing

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:51 pm
by Buffet_of_Lies
Trio wrote:
Hello guys. Sorry I have tot made normal access to file . I am newbie with GoogleDrive.

Try this
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVuNWC ... sp=sharing
Does not seem to load whatever you are trying to share.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:48 pm
by HoboHob
Buffet_of_Lies wrote:
Trio wrote:
Hello guys. Sorry I have tot made normal access to file . I am newbie with GoogleDrive.

Try this
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVuNWC ... sp=sharing
Does not seem to load whatever you are trying to share.
I thought it was my internet. but I guess I am not the only one having this issue.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:07 pm
by UNITiS
Trio wrote:
Hello guys. Sorry I have tot made normal access to file . I am newbie with GoogleDrive.

Try this
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVuNWC ... sp=sharing
Just use dropbox.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:18 pm
by DE Scropion
Trio wrote:
Yes but them are not so power as in OpenGL 3.3. I will read documentations for old shaders,maybe it will have I need.

Have you seen names of weapon in Counter Strike? It is CV-47,sg-552 etc. This names was made to do not pay to patent owners for AK-47 and SIG-552
Permission of patent owners is really hard stuff. I have not observed it over 9000 times :),as I remember,patient is actual only 25 years. Where Is music,I do not know authors of it(it is 70 years old,and all authors and singers have died) and I do not know just whom permission I need.
Note:Russians have full pirate soft,movie and music Green_Sunglasses1


how do u get better guns I only have 3

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:36 pm
by Buffet_of_Lies
HoboHob wrote:
Buffet_of_Lies wrote:
Trio wrote:
Hello guys. Sorry I have tot made normal access to file . I am newbie with GoogleDrive.

Try this
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByVuNWC ... sp=sharing
Does not seem to load whatever you are trying to share.
I thought it was my internet. but I guess I am not the only one having this issue.
Now appears to be working. I still have no real clear idea of what this is even supposed to be though.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:36 pm
by Ninja_pig_pro
I feel like this is basicly a multiplayer version of "Voxel-Stein 3D"
:p But you could suprise me

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:17 am
by Trio
DE Scropion

Aeeee. What about? What about do you say?


Hello. I need some ideas...
I think:
1)Textured cubes,with material like stone,wood etc,they have different health.
2)Buildings like turrets,dispancers etc.
3)A lot of dropable weapons.
4)All this objects may be added with scripts and modes.

Questions:
1)What style of game? PixelArt(Cube),or polygonal models with cube terrain or.. or...
2)Make cubes like in minecraft(textured+own health) or like in AOS(color+3health)?
3)Make dig tools effective for one style of block(spade-dirt,sand ;pickaxe-stone),but i think then it will be very hard to dive tunnels,it will be very slow like in minecraft?
4)how much weapons can player have(how much collect)?
5)Can players build stone,wood blocks(if no AOS style)?
6)How large should be size of map(the max size you need,do not think then about traffic,just say how much map you want make)?

I need save balance weapon+minecraft.


PS:Now I am working for 2D...

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:46 am
by CalenLoki
Answers:
1)Polygonal models + volumetric terrain data displayed as smooth polygonal model (something like Voxel Farm)
2)IMO different types of voxels, so closer to minecraft
3)yes. digging tunnels should be easy only close to surface (up to 5 blocks deep), so they are relatively close to battlefield
4)one main, one secondary, ten slots for ammo or nades or blocks or whatever. with ability to take two secondary instead of one main
5)yes. no block should be impossible to recreate.
6)1kmx1kmx128m, but with voxels 0,5x0,5x0,5m

Thats just my opinion.
Ciao

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:29 am
by UNITiS
CalenLoki wrote:
Answers:
6)1kmx1kmx128m, but with voxels 0,5x0,5x0,5m
Ciao
As I said earlier having a huge map that is 1000 x 1000 in width is very difficult.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:04 pm
by Trio
CalenLoki
1) Polygonal models are good,but it is hard for moding to add new weapon :( ,
terrain data displayed as smooth polygonal model
I will think how to make it

2)IMO different types of voxels, so closer to minecraft
Yes so I dislike opinion:cubes=minecraft,I do not like matching cube games with minecraft.

4)ten slots for ammo or nades or blocks or whatever
nice idea,soldier can have more ammo or grenades,and engineer more blocks. + maybe make this dropable to help your teammates.
because it is large problem in AOS then your ammo get finished.

5)yes. no block should be impossible to recreate.
seriously,build wood,grass,ice,sand is a bit stupid,but it is good idea to mask your buildings . Hmmmm

6)1kmx1kmx128m, but with voxels 0,5x0,5x0,5m
no,blocks(or no cube voxels) should be size 0.75*0.75m or 0.6*0.6 that is width of human.and 3blocks should have haight 1.8m that is height of human.
I think make background for large map is a bit boring. but height 64blocks is really small.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58 am
by Trio
I have thought about terrain...I have 3 alternatives:Cubes,Marching cubes,polygonal terrain.
Marching cubes will look like shit in game with 0.6m cube size,but 0.6 is size comfort to edit and build,so I need make 0.6m
Polygonal is very cool,but it wont work on crap computers. It is very difficult to make physics,collisions,and If I will try to release it now,I wont make this game,or maybe I will make it after 5 years :) .And it is no easy to edit of course.
So I will make Cube terrain.

But about style of models.. I can not choose PixelArt or polygons.

Polygons are very difficult to edit,but it's looks cool,you will add new weapon 5hours,seriously,It is very hard to make texture and model.
but you will draw Pixel Weapon very fast,and you will get fun.
Match CS and CS2D for it,and how difficult is moding for this both games.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:25 pm
by Buffet_of_Lies
I know there is a language barrier here but wtf is a "marching cube"?

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:35 pm
by HoboHob
Trio, in a 3D FPS. You use 3D models for the weapons. YOU DON'T USE FRICKING PIXEL ART GUNS! Why? It looks like crap and guess what, it's super hard to mod. That's right it's much easier to mod a 3D model than a pixel art image. Trust me on this one.

Also polygonal terrain will run better on old computers. Since more geometry can be stored inside the video memory rather than system memory.

Also 1 km x 1km x 128m is just unrealistically large.

Re: The "New Ace Of Spades"

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:07 pm
by UNITiS
Buffet_of_Lies wrote:
I know there is a language barrier here but wtf is a "marching cube"?
Marching cubes is a voxel algorithm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_cubes
In a voxel terrain the algorithm can be used to make the terrain look smoother.
Kinda like in this example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIGgUFP33fc

And regarding what HoboHob said about the terrain size being unrealistically large, I already pointed it out but I don't think it matters as at this point I don't see the project moving on, since this guy just keeps posting what he imagines the finished game to be like, instead of actually doing any work. I used to be like that when I started working on games, I'd be way over ambitious about them leading to the failing in the end. Until Trio shows us that he can actually make a game instead of just talking about it, we should be skeptical about it. I was trying to be positive, towards this project but there really wasn't any significant progress made since the start of the thread.