THE VOTEKICK PROBLEM

[ninjastepsky78]

you see if I get alot of kills in a server some annoying noob starts a votekick and says i'm hacking. Then i get banned or kicked this is srsly annoying.I think we should stop the votekick.Pls reply to this post and tell me your opinion.We should really stop votekicking

[Sniper101]

You shouldn't get banned from a server from just a votekick.

[Fleischgeruch]

Or maybe stop hacking.

[izzy]

This is why I recommend that server owners set their votekick success rate to a minimum of 50%. It's defaulted to 35% in pysnip, but can be adjusted in config.txt:

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"votekick_percentage" : 50,

[tobi9sc]

You get vk because you really hack. Don't you?

[ninjastepsky78]

no i dont hack other ppl are also accused by players he is hacking wtf

[ninjastepsky78]

aloha.pk ban u for a votekick

[a girl]

Personally, I hate aloha votekick thresholds... 98% of the time, votekicks that should pass, fail. Votekicks are there so that players can fend for themselves in the event of a troublemaker and no admins are present. If you don't want people to vote you off, then don't piss them off... and certainly don't hack. I actually banned you from my server due to your annoying behavior on the irc and repeated instances of you hacking. I caught you cheating the other day, then you turned them off after I confronted you. The next day you denied it happened and demanded that someone 1v1 you in the irc. Then when someone finally caved, they videotaped you using first person spectate. They were convinced you were cheating, so I can't say I feel sorry for you. Though I can't personally prove you were cheating as I don't have that video, I'm plenty satisfied with leaving you banned. If you are getting votekicked off of servers, I'd assume that you deserve it. I hope you don't mind my frankness.

[izzy]

98% of the time, votekicks that should pass, fail. Votekicks are there so that players can fend for themselves in the event of a troublemaker and no admins are present. If you don't want people to vote you off, then don't piss them off... and certainly don't hack.

Not sure where you got your 98% statistic from, but I've witnessed plenty of legit votekicks successfully kick troublemakers at 50% threshold. I've also witnessed way too many dishonest votekicks successfully kick innocents at 50% threshold.

In a perfect world the votekick system would serve its purpose the way you described, but the reality is it often gets successfully abused by trolls and carelessness even at 50% threshold. A threshold too much lower than that gives troublemakers too much power, which is even more true the fewer total connected players there are.

No threshold is perfect, but overall 50% seems to be a comfortable balance that, as a last resort, allows legit players to come together to successfully take care of the most troubling situations themselves when there aren't any admins around.

[a girl]

I don't know what aloha is set at exactly and i don't know how accurate my 98% statistic is, but i do know that obvious hackers often survive 6-7 votekick rounds before a votekick finally goes through or an admin pops on and bans them. It's pretty infuriating having to votekick the same guy over and over, then voting yes on the votekicks that are being started during your cool down time... it shouldn't take 20 minutes to get some guy votekicked. Yes, bad votekicks happen, but i'd rather be votekicked off a server a few times by trolls rather than be pwned repeatedly by a hacker that can't be votekicked because most of the server population can't read enough english to know what is going on.

If occasionally getting vk'd off a server for 10 minutes is intolerable, then you have some addiction problems.

What might could work though is have a /y /n system that calculates the ratios of yes to no votes... but will only kick if the ratio is above a threshold and the number of votes is sufficiently high... that way people that just don't care enough to type /y (the entire enemy team) aren't assumed as no votes and people that recognize a bad votekick can lend their support to the victim by doing /n. Staying silent should be a neutral vote. It wouldn't hurt to have trusted users have a double weighted vote.

[izzy]

Trusted players having more weight would be a nice feature. Dynamically adjusting threshold percentage based on number of players would also be nice, maybe a range between something like 25% for a full server and 50% for less than 10 players.

aloha is set at 50%, by the way.

[ninjastepsky78]

Personally, I hate aloha votekick thresholds... 98% of the time, votekicks that should pass, fail. Votekicks are there so that players can fend for themselves in the event of a troublemaker and no admins are present. If you don't want people to vote you off, then don't piss them off... and certainly don't hack. I actually banned you from my server due to your annoying behavior on the irc and repeated instances of you hacking. I caught you cheating the other day, then you turned them off after I confronted you. The next day you denied it happened and demanded that someone 1v1 you in the irc. Then when someone finally caved, they videotaped you using first person spectate. They were convinced you were cheating, so I can't say I feel sorry for you. Though I can't personally prove you were cheating as I don't have that video, I'm plenty satisfied with leaving you banned. If you are getting votekicked off of servers, I'd assume that you deserve it. I hope you don't mind my frankness.

THEY DID NOT GET FOOTAGE OF ME HACKING AND I'M NOT HACKING FOR FUCKS SAKE

[Teeth]

Personally, I hate aloha votekick thresholds... 98% of the time, votekicks that should pass, fail. Votekicks are there so that players can fend for themselves in the event of a troublemaker and no admins are present. If you don't want people to vote you off, then don't piss them off... and certainly don't hack. I actually banned you from my server due to your annoying behavior on the irc and repeated instances of you hacking. I caught you cheating the other day, then you turned them off after I confronted you. The next day you denied it happened and demanded that someone 1v1 you in the irc. Then when someone finally caved, they videotaped you using first person spectate. They were convinced you were cheating, so I can't say I feel sorry for you. Though I can't personally prove you were cheating as I don't have that video, I'm plenty satisfied with leaving you banned. If you are getting votekicked off of servers, I'd assume that you deserve it. I hope you don't mind my frankness.

THEY DID NOT GET FOOTAGE OF ME HACKING AND I'M NOT HACKING FOR FUCKS SAKE

Please leave.

[tobi9sc]

Personally, I hate aloha votekick thresholds... 98% of the time, votekicks that should pass, fail. Votekicks are there so that players can fend for themselves in the event of a troublemaker and no admins are present. If you don't want people to vote you off, then don't piss them off... and certainly don't hack. I actually banned you from my server due to your annoying behavior on the irc and repeated instances of you hacking. I caught you cheating the other day, then you turned them off after I confronted you. The next day you denied it happened and demanded that someone 1v1 you in the irc. Then when someone finally caved, they videotaped you using first person spectate. They were convinced you were cheating, so I can't say I feel sorry for you. Though I can't personally prove you were cheating as I don't have that video, I'm plenty satisfied with leaving you banned. If you are getting votekicked off of servers, I'd assume that you deserve it. I hope you don't mind my frankness.

THEY DID NOT GET FOOTAGE OF ME HACKING AND I'M NOT HACKING FOR FUCKS SAKE

Kiwi got a vid btw

[1Shot1Kill]

THEY DID NOT GET FOOTAGE OF ME HACKING AND I'M NOT HACKING FOR FUCKS SAKE